not seeming like you are maybe joe being joe in the way that he was this week? >> i think it comes down to tone. i mean, i think that anything can be fair game in the world of debates. as i say, i've been in more than my share of debates through congress years and governor years and part of the debate, you're, coach, catching spears or dwre grenades or whatever yot to call. it's important in how the message is sent. in other words, for obama to maintain his brand as, quote, fair-minded, he cannot get away with the kind of things that joe was getting away with, the smirky smile and what inot. it comes down to a matter of tone, and i think, you know, romney needs to do exactly what he did last debate which is to be strong, to be firm, to say i disagree and here's where i disagree, but i think he was very reverent, if you will, and fair-minded in the way that he approached that debate. i think he needs to basically take that game book back to play here in the town hall setting we'll see this week.